Curse

Etta · Jan 06, 2009, 09:27 AM // 09:27

What, what, what? Seriously? No squid as well? Oh well, I'd still go and see it.

Fril Estelin · Jan 07, 2009, 11:46 PM // 23:46

A little bit more new footage in the Japanese trailer:
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer...panese-trailer

I like the darker tone, due to the classical music.

Fril Estelin · Mar 09, 2009, 07:41 PM // 19:41

(thread rez instead of creating a new one!)

So, any1 saw it? What did you think?

(I'll have to wait until easter break to be able to watch it in theatres

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Shadow Kurd · Mar 09, 2009, 08:09 PM // 20:09

from what i've heard till now i can say that the movie is pretty mediocre

Sir Skullcrasher · Mar 09, 2009, 08:14 PM // 20:14

From the reviews and user comments that I saw, it seems like the movie followed very closely with the comic. Althought they did changed the ending, almost every major lines/dialogs were included in the film. Only downside is that majority of the movie seems to be narrative or have other characters talking. Not alot of action sequences in it.

I still want to go and see it thought!

Lourens · Mar 09, 2009, 09:17 PM // 21:17

Its fun ive seen it

Shadow Kurd · Mar 09, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by Lourens

Its fun ive seen it

Care to mini-review it for us?

JupiterStarWarrior · Mar 10, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Awesome movie! I really liked it a lot!

glacialphoenix · Mar 10, 2009, 01:07 AM // 01:07

I saw it, and I liked it.

Honestly, I think the reviews are pretty, well, polarised - some people don't like the blood and gore, but I don't think you can tell Watchmen without the blood and gore. There are people who complain about how there isn't a satisfying ending - and for me, if you think a satisfying ending means 'good wins, bad loses', you shouldn't watch it. It's not the typical 'action flick', either, so if you wanted that, don't watch it.

I mean, it was based off a Moore comic, you can kind of expect something different.

The production design was fantastic, and Rorschach ought to win an award for his acting. On the contrary, whoever thought up that particular sex scene in the movie ought to be shot.

xDusT II · Mar 10, 2009, 06:38 AM // 06:38

The ending did not have a squid. That ruined the movie for me.

DarkFlame · Mar 10, 2009, 08:02 AM // 08:02

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

So, any1 saw it? What did you think?

It was good. Pretty faithful to the source materials, except the substitution of the fake alien squid. Honestly, that wasn't quite as big a deal for me as the doc is a more credible threat, then well a fake alien squid. Tad long, a lot of flashbacks but they served to fill in the backstory. Good fight scenes evenly spaced through the movie, though not non-stop action. Heavy on the narrative, but it isn't just pointless talking. Definitely something I'd want to watch again.

And Haley really throws himself into the Rorschach role. Not quite Ledger/Joker good, but close.

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Originally Posted by Kanyatta

One thing, though, I hope they don't show Dr. Manhattan's dick in the movie, that kept weirding me out while reading.

His limp piece is, unfortunately, hanging out in close to half his scenes.

Lyynyyrd · Mar 10, 2009, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

The ending did not have a squid. That ruined the movie for me.

Thanks for ruining the fu*king movie for me.

REDdelver · Mar 10, 2009, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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And Haley really throws himself into the Rorschach role. Not quite Ledger/Joker good, but close.

Pretty much agree. Haley is a "low-lying" crazy actor. He did do an awesome job as Rorschach. The one movie he did that really made an impression for me was "LITTLE CHILDREN."

For me. Its a little harder to put him close to Ledger, but yea he's up there. The main reason why i say that is..... Haley has played creepy characters before making it easier/less of a stretch to play Rorschach.
As far as Ledger, he truly reinvented not only the Joker but himself too.

I'd definitely recommend seeing it, I loved it. JUST Remember you can almost never fit the whole story/book/comic/novel into a movie. SO theres always going to be things cut. But try to be open for the grand scheme of things. Remember too, the directors cut is coming. And if im not mistaken he wanted another 30mins to 45 mins in the original. Something to look forward to.

Nightow · Mar 10, 2009, 08:04 PM // 20:04

It really was a wonderful movie. Maybe a bit more action than what was needed (like the fleshed out brawl between the Comedian and his assailant) but I guess you have to expect that coming from Snyder.

Too bad everyone didn't know coming in just how mature and deep this movie was.

Apoc · Mar 10, 2009, 09:50 PM // 21:50

A pretty good adaptation, but I was still a tad disappointed.

The actor playing Adrian Veidt was a bad choice and what's with his stupid haircut. The CG seemed bad at some places also. As expected, too much use of needless slow-motion. The music was awkward sometimes; I think they should have used the original score instead.
Good thing they've got the characters right... well, almost.

Awaiting the 210-minute director's cut on Blu-ray. 4/5

Dante the Warlord · Mar 11, 2009, 03:03 AM // 03:03

I was just glad this was a movie where I didn't have to sit next to a bunch of little kids ... on my birthday ... on a Friday night. Thank god for rated R films. It was a pretty good film and was a lot longer then I expected (which is a great thing). I didn't really like Rorschach at the beginning, he was kinda lame with the paranoia, but when he got caught, he was probably the coolest character I have ever seen.

I laughed when I saw nite owl cause I thought he was a huge nerd with a beer belly... Then I saw him break a guys arm like a marine..

Overall - 85/100

The beginning was lacking and near the end it felt a little boring. The middle part was the best and I kinda liked the very end.

pamelf · Mar 11, 2009, 05:28 AM // 05:28

This movie made me happy...in my pants.

glacialphoenix · Mar 11, 2009, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Too bad everyone didn't know coming in just how mature and deep this movie was.

I just yelled "PHILISTINES!" at my computer. (OK, that was a lie, but I did say it out loud.)
I hope you're happy. :P

Seriously though, if the movie is rated R, why in the name of all that is holy would you bring your YOUNG CHILDREN in there? For that matter, if you can't stomach blood and gore, and the movie is rated R, you should be expecting a bit more than the average action flick's (fairly) bloodless punch-out fights.

I didn't see anyone walking out when I went to watch it, by the way. But the, uh, 'fairly explicit sex scene' with its accompanying music had the entire theatre laughing.

pumpkin pie · Mar 11, 2009, 11:15 AM // 11:15

lol @ HardCorenerdity.com

anyway. i haven't watch it so not gonna read much in this thread or anything until i watch it

meanwhile enjoy the open letter.

DarkNecrid · Mar 11, 2009, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

Care to mini-review it for us?

This is coming from an intense fan of the graphic novel (GN from now on) mind you. (and I'm not sure how mini this is going to be, btw it has SPOILERSSSS if you haven't read the GN/seen the movie.)

Watchmen as a film both has these great and horribly bad points to it that in the end make for an overall mediocre experience. That is to say, it isn't completely awful, but it isn't the defining opum magmus of its medium either as the Watchmen GN was.

I'll start with the good stuff. The actors all fit the looks of their roles, in certain cases certain liberties were taken (Ozymandias, especially.) to add more to interpret when it comes to the character. The movie is beautiful, assaulting the eyes every second, easter eggs and hidden symbols persist throughout the movie. Most of the themes and hidden symbols of Watchmen still persist, from the Comedian's smiley face (and the doomsday clock that it represents, alongside Adrien being the smiley face, with Rorschach being the blood that had to be spilled to fulfill that smile.) to Dr. Manhattan's penis (impotency, loss of humanity, his ego in general.). The important themes are all there, with these sub symbols I mentioned not being thrown in the audience's face, remaining subtle, yet key.

The movie has tons of little quirks that most people might not notice the first couple viewings. From Nite Owl I saving Bruce Wayne's parents and Alfred in the Gotham City Opera House in the opening montage, to the similar and implied relationship between Hooded Justice and "another male" (originally Captain Metropolis, but he got removed.) in the dinner scene between Nite Owl II and Silk Spectre II, and very subtle things having to deal with Ozymandias' new implied sexuality - he has lesbian pornography going on one of his computers in a scene of the movie, but also has a folder called "Boys" when Nite Owl II is on the PC, implying bisexuality.

The fight scenes are longer, and I think they did both good and bad things with them. The bad is quite simple: they don't feel human. I think this subtracts from the point of Watchmen in general. The idea is that they (sans Manhattan) are super heroes who are human and try to protect us from ourselves (so says Comedian), and by being human they not only have only our possible strength, but they also have our weaknesses and such. These fight scenes come very close to helping lose the belief that the Watchmen are human, there is simply things done that can just not happen, and ultimately the GN comes out as way more believable. I understand this is a liberty to keep the audience entertained, but they walked a close line here.

The good part of the fighting is that they do use the length to enhance the actual character depth in most of them. It's very very subtle, but every fight scene provides something new for all the characters involved. Everything from Ozymandias' belief that the ends justify the means when he lets all the people trying to bully him to die just so he can knockout the gunman attacking him, to (my favorite) Rorschach's persistence in all of his beliefs showing in the final fight with him constantly putting on his hat. Some fights are changed, regrettably one of my scenes with Rorschach in the GN is changed to a mere butchering, but even this adds some detail to Rorschach and gives the audience a chance to "feel" for him.

The final good thing of the film is that it realizes it is a film, and does take (needed) liberties with the GN. Characters like Captain Metropolis are removed to simplify (not dumb down!) the story for the audience. The ending is changed and arguably better because it is not only far more believable, but it advances Manhattan's character. People seem to complain about this a lot, but they never seem to mention that the ending achieves the exact same 2 things the GN does and it does them both equally well, that being showing the Watchmen as....Watchmen, who ultimately live with (sans Rorschach) what they have done: sacrificed millions for billions, and it also ties in the idea of possible hopelessness, that maybe peace is impossible and that we are ultimately doomed, as the newspaper begins to print Rorschach's journal. The fate of the world is still left unknown, however.

The few bad things of the film are probably minor in the grand scheme of things. Music choice is questionable in parts (Ride of the Valkyries in Vietnam, Hallelujah for a sex scene that tries to add depth to Dan, My Chemical Romance covering Bob Dylan in the end credits...). Silk Spectre II's actor while looking the part, seems to miss the mark on actually acting her part and her and her in-movie mother seem to be the worst characters. One of the most important plot points was cut and made people wondering how Comedian and Ozymandias was related if seeing what happened made the Comedian - someone who kills innocent people tons of times over in the movie, to break down and go to his arch rival.

I think the worst thing about the film is that it is mediocre as I said. It comes so close to greatness but misses the mark in a few places. Ultimately this makes it near unrecommendable to anybody new. Haven't read the GN? Then read it. Read it? Read it again. I could only recommend this to people who have read the GN and maybe want to see it play out in motion and in high tech graphics. People won't be lost if they've never read the GN and want to watch the movie, but ultimately Moore was right, there are things that you can do in a GN that just can't be filmed, and the GN was anything but mediocre, it was the defining book of its medium, and still remains to be such to this day.